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#1 of 20 Old 05-23-2008, 08:31 AM - Thead Starter
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Squat.

I have patiently did my kick drills, one arm drills, and catch-up drills for the last 7 months. 3x per week.

Results of swim yesterday: 2:22 per 100m and 56 strokes per 50m. ****, I was doing that before.

One (of many) issue: There is a huge difference before and after drills. about 15s per 100m. I just can't seem to teach my body to adapt. Going to get some weird looks at a tri when I show up with my fins and spend 20 minutes doing drills as warm-up....

Best analogy I have come up with is a car analogy. Something is wrong with charging system. I have swapped parts, rewired everything, but I still have to push-start it everyday. I occasionally turn off the motor (analogous to a steady swim) just to see if I fixed it. And end up pushing it again.

I got to get myself a coach when I get to the states.

However, having said all this, I will add this: I will come running into T1 on raceday. That you can take to the bank.

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Dont sweat it Jim - even if I am out of the water before you I am sure you will have caught me up before we get into Frankfurt for the 1st time
The swim is the smallest part of the race

You will be fine

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My swim pace has not improved one bit over the past year. Stupid sport.

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Mine even has gotten slower. Stupid sport.
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Maybe you should consider taking public transport?

Stupid sport.

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Y'all are cracking me up.

Stupid sport indeed.

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My swim got slower and slower as I approached IM. Maybe you have the same problem, lots of other stuff going on. After the taper I had a huge PR. Just forget about the times in the pool, and kick butt. You aren't going to be drilling during the race (I hope not )
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Stupid sport indeed!!!

After working with my coach yesterday, we managed to reduce my stroke count by one. Meaning, I hit the wall with the wrong hand. My flips are all screwed up now.

Stupid sport!!!
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Get some lighter water. Makes you faster.

- If you think you can't, you're right.
- Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
- REJOICE and Whine not! For today you are doing that which most only dream.

 

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I hate hate hate that!!!

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I think there is a point when you have to let up on the drills and just swim.

I was told that I'm too mechanical and that I need to be more fluid in the the water. So I have laid off the drills and instead swim, try to relax and adapt a more fluid motion in the water. The attempt to maintain proper form is still there, but I'm not focusing on it which is what was creating the mechanical form in the water.

I got my strong effort 100 down to 1:13 the other day, the people I'm swimming with can swim those in the mid 50's.

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Wow. Define "strong effort." If it's an all-out sprint I'm right there with you. If it's a strong-yet-sustainable effort, I think you're doing just fine. Ignore those freaks you swim with, they're not mammals.

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I was so pissed last season after RELIGIOUSLY working all off-season on my swimming, drills, drills, lots of time in the pool and was rewarded with.........nothing. So this year I am only swimming 2X week. I'd rather take that 3rd session on the bike, at least that seems to be improving............
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Yep, this is where I am for the rest of the year.
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I take this as an invitation to grab both of LRR ankles and hang on for dear life.

Make sure to drop a token in his bike shoes.


Stupid Sport.
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I did the same thing this year. I have swum right into the wall more times than I can count. I must have screwed my head up the first time I did it. I'm gonna knock myself out one day.

jk...

How much speed work did you do during that time? Drills are great, but if you don't do some speed work, your not gonna get faster. Are you following a swim plan or just going to the pool willy nilly?

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#18 of 20 Old 05-24-2008, 02:50 AM - Thead Starter
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CS, not enough speed work for sure. Funny, I actually tried to do a bit more this morning. I guess your wisdom travelled over the ocean over night.

I don't swim willy nilly, but nor do I have a good structure.

Your point is well received, thanks.
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Stupid sport!

DH (who is learning way to much about this triathlon thing) says to me- "the race is not won or lost in the swim- you'll be fine!"
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Wait... don't most pools require guys wear speedos or jammers or something? Around here a guy could get arrested swimming in a public pool with his willy all nilly.

Occasionally however, when we're suffering an "L" drought, (a whether phenomenon unrelated to Gravity Storms) willy nilly swimming is allowed in... pubic pools.

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