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Black People and Mormons hate gays???
So I guess Mormons and Blacks hate gays.
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Mormons... yeah, at least as far as gay marriage goes, no real surprise there.
I dont think that its being portrayed as blacks hate gays as much as racial monorities in CA tend to be very pro-family. The yes side played off of this and made it look like voting no on 8 made one anti-child and anti-family. Therefore apparently that combined with the much higher turnout of racial minorities to vote allowed the bill to pass.
They's all a bunch of haters they are- NTTAWWT.
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Pete- you should ashamed of your bigotry. Your prejudice is absolutely disgusting. Imagine! Judging someone based on preconceived labels!!!
HP, I sort of imagine you like Barney- with less hair. -Maccabeth
Give me some time people.
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HP, I sort of imagine you like Barney- with less hair. -Maccabeth
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Morwoman????
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I do believe that homosexuality is a sin, and I support the church's doctrine on that.
That being said, I don't fully understand legislating against it. We don't smoke or shop on Sundays, either, but I don't see a huge push for legislation against that sort of thing.
In order to understand the church's stance on this, you need to know a little about our beliefs on just what the famile is all about. Sure, you hear all sorts of stuff from the religious right and even mainstream Christianity in general about the importance of family. Right. Got it. But the family, specifically the type of family that the scriptures describe is an essential element of one's eternal glorification. The afterlife isn't some cosmic hit or miss with only pure bliss or eternal torment as our options. In order to really get the most that the next life has to offer, you need to have built a family. Considering how important a family is, I think the church is trying to fend off any efforts to normalize something that runs counter to that.
I just wanna know all of my heavenly options.
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Ok, I'll answer, temper my answer and then run for cover.
I do believe that homosexuality is a sin, and I support the church's doctrine on that. That being said, I don't fully understand legislating against it. We don't smoke or shop on Sundays, either, but I don't see a huge push for legislation against that sort of thing. In order to understand the church's stance on this, you need to know a little about our beliefs on just what the famile is all about. Sure, you hear all sorts of stuff from the religious right and even mainstream Christianity in general about the importance of family. Right. Got it. But the family, specifically the type of family that the scriptures describe is an essential element of one's eternal glorification. The afterlife isn't some cosmic hit or miss with only pure bliss or eternal torment as our options. In order to really get the most that the next life has to offer, you need to have built a family. Considering how important a family is, I think the church is trying to fend off any efforts to normalize something that runs counter to that. |
I would guess a lot of voters have no problem with whomever wishes to love whomever but they have plenty of concern about the definition of marriage becoming a flexible entity.
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Well the morman church part is pretty obvious.
I dont think that its being portrayed as blacks hate gays as much as racial monorities in CA tend to be very pro-family. The yes side played off of this and made it look like voting no on 8 made one anti-child and anti-family. Therefore apparently that combined with the much higher turnout of racial minorities to vote allowed the bill to pass. |
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people can believe anything they jolly well want. It becomes problematic when they decide that they everybody else to conform to their beliefs, which is essentially what the various religious groups are trying to do here. I think they recognize that they are gradually becoming more obsolete, hence their unified effort this time around. As long as the gay rights activists stay active, which it looks like they are in the heat of things, i doubt this will be much of an issue 15-20 years down the road.
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Now I have no love for the church, and I can really give a rat's ass anymore who marries who, because I'm basically tired of hearing people bitch about it, and it doesn't have any effect on me. But teh kenyan's observation about religious groups deciding everybody else conform to their beliefs can be turned around, and I think that may have been underestimated in California. Perhaps more people who are not religious zealots believe marriage should be between a man and a woman than people thought and they pushed back against a group of people they perceived to be trying to push their beliefs on them. Just my own observation based on what I've seen in this thread.





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