well I'll gladly pay $300 to unsupersize my Garmin
I'd order it today if I could
I'd order it today if I could
1/4/08 at 3:33pm
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1/4/08 at 3:59pm
That looks sweet! I think I'll have to kick my 205 down to my 15yo son for his cross country training.
1/4/08 at 4:45pm
its soo pretty... i agree great moms day gift... must email link to dh 
1/4/08 at 5:31pm
I looks sweet. My 305 isn't that old yet. So it may be a while before I can justify buying another one.
the other thing I like is it appears that all of the accessories from the 305 will work on the 405.
the other thing I like is it appears that all of the accessories from the 305 will work on the 405.
1/4/08 at 6:33pm
Thanks Hup - I'll give it a shot this weekend!
1/5/08 at 11:14pm
I love my 305 with one exception. I have small wrists so it is sort of awkward to wear. If the 405 is more compact it might be worth it for me to upgrade. I think I will have to see it in person to check the fit before I upgrade.
1/6/08 at 3:49am
1/6/08 at 4:28am
Well, I won't be getting it for like months from now, so 
1/6/08 at 11:03am
Moon - that page has been on their site since they announced the release.
I talked to someone at Garmin the other day and he said to look for it in Feb./Mar.
I talked to someone at Garmin the other day and he said to look for it in Feb./Mar.
1/6/08 at 11:14am
I'm with Tim. I love my 305, and don't need an improvement yet.
1/6/08 at 1:06pm
I still have my 301 and it seems to do everything that I need it to do. The software that comes with it works great. I use delorme topo software to download tracks and waypoints from my runs along with uploading routes that I design from Delorme topo.
The newer FR's gps function is supposed to be more sensitive than my 301, but have not found that lack of sensitivity to be significant problem except perhaps in narrow canyons, but not sure if more sensitivity would help.
The display on the 405 looks small. One of the things that I enjoy with my 301 is the large display. Since the 301 is shaped oblong it fits nicely on my wrist, so I see no advantage to the watch like shape of the new 405. High resolution color graphics even in the smaller display might make up for size, but this hasn't happend yet. Even the 305 doesn't seem to be a significant upgrade and the shape of it looked awkward, however it retained the large display.
Perhaps this might be a good time to buy 2 or 3 301's at a good price. Sort of like when they change the design of a good running shoe, I always wished I bought several pair when they were on sale.
There was a comment somewhere about the battery charge being too short eg. Ultrarunners. There is an easy solution to that. A few parts from radio shack, a few batteries and a tiny battery pack can be made that would keep it running for days.
If there were a complaint about the FR all models, would have to be the hrm function. It doesn't appear to work as well as Polar hrm's and the fr is not compatable with the aerobic machines at the health clubs. This isn't a real problem as when I was using those machines, I would wear one of my polar straps.
Larry
The newer FR's gps function is supposed to be more sensitive than my 301, but have not found that lack of sensitivity to be significant problem except perhaps in narrow canyons, but not sure if more sensitivity would help.
The display on the 405 looks small. One of the things that I enjoy with my 301 is the large display. Since the 301 is shaped oblong it fits nicely on my wrist, so I see no advantage to the watch like shape of the new 405. High resolution color graphics even in the smaller display might make up for size, but this hasn't happend yet. Even the 305 doesn't seem to be a significant upgrade and the shape of it looked awkward, however it retained the large display.
Perhaps this might be a good time to buy 2 or 3 301's at a good price. Sort of like when they change the design of a good running shoe, I always wished I bought several pair when they were on sale.
There was a comment somewhere about the battery charge being too short eg. Ultrarunners. There is an easy solution to that. A few parts from radio shack, a few batteries and a tiny battery pack can be made that would keep it running for days.
If there were a complaint about the FR all models, would have to be the hrm function. It doesn't appear to work as well as Polar hrm's and the fr is not compatable with the aerobic machines at the health clubs. This isn't a real problem as when I was using those machines, I would wear one of my polar straps.
Larry
Good Runs All
Larry
Larry
1/7/08 at 2:50pm
I figured this was imminent given the discounting that has been happening on the 305. My 305 still has a few years in it so I'll stay put. I love my 305, however, so when it does die I'm sure I'll pickup another Forerunner, whatever version is available at the time.
Victor
Victor
1/7/08 at 3:52pm
My 201 is still going strong and since I don't need it for HRM it fits my needs. Ugliest thing I've ever used but I'll wear it until it dies.
The 405 looks nice design wise but I wonder how huge it would be on a small wrist.
The 405 looks nice design wise but I wonder how huge it would be on a small wrist.
1/7/08 at 4:10pm
And that would explain the great price I got on my new 305....
1/7/08 at 4:15pm
Ahh, okay - I didn't see it in the original list of links, so I thought it was a recent addition
1/8/08 at 6:57am
Right before my birthday. If it fits my wrist better then the 305 I might have to ask for it as a gift. *grin* I am a techno geek, but decided that unless it is more comfortable then the one I have I won't get it.
1/8/08 at 9:56am
The 405 is featured in a NY Times video at CES.
At the 2:30 mark.
http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_stor...ea4d286ac914ae
At the 2:30 mark.
http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_stor...ea4d286ac914ae
1/8/08 at 8:48pm
OMG, it's pretty.
I ALMOST bought a 305 this year, but held out. Glad I didn't buy one! I'll have this on my wish list this year.
I ALMOST bought a 305 this year, but held out. Glad I didn't buy one! I'll have this on my wish list this year.
Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions (Dalai Lama)
1/8/08 at 9:00pm
I'm currently using an older model Timex GPS, but when it dies, I'll definitely consider the 405.
1/8/08 at 9:10pm
Why can't they make it at least waterproof enough to handle a triathlon swim??? This has the same IPX7 rating as the 305 which they don't recommend swimming with. How hard can it be to make with stand 1 meter for a couple of hours?
1/13/08 at 8:22pm
I just pre-ordered my 405 from Amazon and noticed this in the specs area on the Garmin site...
Does anyone know what I will and won't be able to do with the data on my Mac with the Data?
Does anyone know what I will and won't be able to do with the data on my Mac with the Data?
1/13/08 at 9:27pm
Did Amazon give you any indication as to when they'd begin shipping?
1/13/08 at 10:06pm
Nope. They just said that would send me an email when they have an estimated ship date.
1/14/08 at 11:04pm
1/14/08 at 11:51pm
I'm using a Mac version of the Garmin Training Center software (v 2.0.3) on my Mac.
Victor
Victor
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